In episode ten of Acquired, hosts Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal discuss the non-technology acquisition of Virgin America by Alaska Airlines, highlighting their fascination with the airline industry. Despite the deviation from their usual tech focus, they delve into the strategic implications of the $2.6 billion deal, emphasizing the significant premium paid by Alaska Airlines and the challenges of integrating Virgin America's Airbus fleet with Alaska's Boeing-dominated lineup. They also touch upon the industry's consolidation trend, the role of brand affinity in the acquisition, and the potential impact on Alaska's financial structure. The episode features discussions on the broader airline market dynamics, including the influence of fuel prices on profitability and the competitive pressures airlines face. Additionally, they mention their sponsor, Pilot, a startup-focused accounting firm that provides comprehensive financial services.
"Welcome to episode ten of acquired, the podcast where we talk about technology acquisitions that actually went well. I am Ben Gilbert. I'm David Rosenthal, and we are your hosts."
This quote introduces the podcast episode and the hosts, setting the stage for the discussion on Alaska Airlines' acquisition of Virgin America.
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"So Virgin America was actually founded in 2004 by Richard Branson and then had to go through a whole series of machinations to end up finally launching their airline service in the U.S. Not until 2007."
This quote summarizes the founding and early challenges faced by Virgin America, setting the context for its eventual acquisition by Alaska Airlines.
"So when the dust clears and all is said and done, basically the total enterprise value of the deal ends up being about $4 billion if you include the debt and the aircraft leases that Virgin had."
This quote outlines the financial magnitude of the acquisition, indicating the combined value of cash, debt, and leases involved in the transaction.
"Ultimately, though, what I think they're acquiring here is capacity. They identified the opportunity that they wanted to be the West coast airline, and right now they don't have a meaningful presence in California."
This quote captures the strategic intent behind Alaska Airlines' acquisition of Virgin America, emphasizing the importance of expanding capacity and presence in the competitive airline industry.
"This would fit closest to a business line... But I actually think the best categorization is this is industry consolidation."
This quote highlights that while the acquisition could be seen as a business line extension, it is more accurately described as a strategic move within a period of industry consolidation.
"From 77 to 2009, the industry lost $52 billion... Yet from 2010 to 2015... $45 billion of value."
This quote illustrates the stark contrast in the economic performance of the airline industry over different periods, with recent years showing a positive trend.
"A fundamentally changed industry structure...constrained airport real estate...new revenue sources."
The quote summarizes the reasons Alaska Airlines provided to investors for optimism about the industry's future, despite its troubled past.
"Between the top four airlines, 80% of all US domestic airline traffic."
This quote underscores the extent of market consolidation and the dominance of a few major players in the airline industry.
"People who love Virgin love Virgin."
This quote captures the essence of brand loyalty and its significance in the valuation of Virgin America during its acquisition by Alaska Airlines.
"They cite Alaska sites that they'll have $225,000,000 of total net synergies at full integration."
This quote provides insight into the expected financial benefits of the merger between Alaska Airlines and Virgin America, which are used to justify the acquisition to investors.
"Delta coming into Seattle was part about competing with Alaska domestically... But also an even bigger part, probably for Delta, is using Seattle as a gateway for international flights to Asia."
This quote explains Delta's multifaceted strategy in Seattle, which has implications for its competition with Alaska Airlines and the broader industry dynamics.
"Gosh, it seems like you're buying at the top of the market here, where profits are artificially inflated."
This quote expresses concern about purchasing a company during a market peak when profits may not be sustainable.
"Alaska flies Boeing planes and virgin flies Airbus planes, exclusively Airbus, their entire plane, only flies Boeing and virgin only flies Airbus."
This quote highlights the incompatibility of the two airlines' fleets, a significant operational challenge post-acquisition.
"Virgin is sort of only recently profitable."
This quote indicates Virgin America's financial vulnerability and recent entry into profitability, making the acquisition timing critical.
"Ford wanted the Edsel to be everything to everyone."
The Edsel's failure is used as a cautionary tale of a brand's unclear market position, drawing a parallel to Virgin America's strategy.
"Alaska has 32 million total passengers a year. Virgin has seven."
This quote provides a stark comparison of the scale between Alaska Airlines and Virgin America, questioning the acquisition's value.
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The quote describes Statsig's primary functions and its value proposition for product teams.
"The way you're going to beat Google down the road is you start with a small audience, a small niche of people who love you passionately, and then you grow from there."
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Yeah, I mean, totally. I think that everybody that has done well at loyalty in the last 50 years has taken it from airlines. The question is like do you need.
The quote emphasizes the historical importance of airlines in developing successful loyalty programs and questions the current need for such programs.
Open table. Yeah, add it to the list. Yeah, I'm trying to think about is it necessary, has something changed in the world where it's necessary to consolidate to keep loyalty? Because does something exist now that didn't exist before, where people only ever want to use one airline?
This quote reflects on whether market conditions have evolved to the point where airline consolidation is required to preserve customer loyalty.
And with Slack I think that the network effect was because people were starting inter company slacks. So you would end up with like, oh, I'm in this slack, that's like a social thing or an industry thing. And then it was like, I'm not going to keep using two separate applications.
The quote draws a parallel with Slack's network effect, suggesting that the inconvenience of using multiple platforms may drive consolidation in loyalty programs.
So therefore margins are driven down because airlines get more commoditized. And when they're more commoditized, then there's less profit to be had even though they weren't making a lot of profit before, they need to consolidate to create a cheaper back office to take advantage of economies of scale.
The speaker explains how online travel aggregators have commoditized airlines, leading to reduced margins and the need for consolidation to achieve economies of scale.
It's interesting, it feels a little bit, it's different because it hasn't fully become a digitized industry, but it's reminiscent of Ben Thompson's aggregation theory, right, where aggregating the consumer endpoint and experience, he argues in the digital 21st century post Internet world, is where all the value is.
The speaker compares the airline industry to Ben Thompson's aggregation theory, suggesting similarities despite the airline industry not being fully digitized.
Southwest has refused to participate in the aggregators to let themselves be aggregated and probably has some of the most loyal customers.
This quote highlights Southwest Airlines' strategy of not participating in aggregators as a way to maintain a loyal customer base, contrasting with broader industry trends.
For me, I think the value is inflated both by the biding war and by the fact that they bought something that had brand built into the market cap when they're not necessarily going to leverage and in fact have announced they're not going to leverage that brand.
The speaker critiques the acquisition, suggesting that the value was inflated due to a bidding war and doubts about the effective use of the acquired brand.
I'm going to go c minus because what you said is right. But they paid so much money. They paid so much money.
This quote reflects the speaker's lower grade for the acquisition decision, primarily due to the high cost of the acquisition.
It is so fascinating. He gives so many great examples that will make you both follow it logically and nod your head and sort of scared about how much of your own success has been out of your control or how much the world is out of our control.
The quote praises Michael Mauboussin's work for its compelling presentation of the role of luck in success and its implications for personal achievement and control.
The paradox of skill is that even in things that are highly skill based, as the level of play gets higher. So imagine the example Malveson uses is basketball, as basketball, which is very skill based, as the level of play gets higher and higher, and the parity of skill amongst the players gets more and more uniform, then luck plays an increasing amount role in the outcome, even though it's a skill based game.
The speaker describes the paradox of skill, explaining how luck can become a significant factor in outcomes as the overall skill level of participants becomes more uniform.
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