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https://youtu.be/Goe-5iRyysU?si=2KSL21gwIEgMf8BQIn episode 133 of the Taylor Swift fan podcast "13," hosts Anna Zabo and Amy Nichols delve into the pop culture significance of Swift's hit song "Bad Blood," exploring its connection to the 1989 era and its iconic music video. They discuss its collaborative creation with Max Martin and Shellback, the speculated feud and eventual reconciliation between Taylor Swift and Katy Perry, and the song's Grammy-winning impact. Additionally, they touch on the star-studded music video, featuring celebrities like Selena Gomez and Kendrick Lamar, and its record-breaking viewership. The episode is a deep dive into the song's backstory, its role in Swift's career, and its lasting legacy in pop music history.
yay networks 13 has been my lucky number for a while like it's always a sign of good things to come for me this is 13 a Taylor Swift fan podcast breaking down every song every Easter egg every era and every Theory hosted by the biggest swifties Nick Adams Anna Zabo Amy Nichols and Lacy G.
This quote introduces the podcast and its focus on Taylor Swift's work, indicating it's a detailed and passionate analysis by fans.
um yes so welcome to another Anna and Amy production um we're going to be talking about the song Bad Blood Taylor's version written by Taylor Swift Max Martin and shellback yes great collaboration.
This quote introduces the main topic of the podcast episode, highlighting the creators of the song "Bad Blood."
and it is just so Dee rooted in 1989 era like when you we'll get into it like the music video the girl squad era just like every everything of it is just so 1989 era so Ed Sheeran heard this song when it was a demo before it was all uh detailed out.
This quote emphasizes the deep connection of "Bad Blood" to the 1989 era and its cultural relevance.
okay so bad blood for I feel like the average person you know if you're not like a DieHard Swifty or even if you're just a casual Swifty whatever when you think D when you think bad blood you probably think. Katy Perry.
This quote sets the stage for the discussion on the personal conflict that inspired "Bad Blood," which many believe involves Katy Perry.
so she didn't like name names but she did say that it was you know about a female friend.
This quote highlights Taylor Swift's approach to addressing the inspiration behind "Bad Blood" without directly naming individuals.
so when that interview came out even though Taylor didn't say specifically Katy Perry people kind of started putting one and two together and started speculating. oh she's probably talking about Katy Perry and then when Katy Perry tweeted that it was kind of confirmation I guess you could say
This quote discusses the public's reaction to the interviews and Katy Perry's tweet, which led to widespread speculation about the song's subject.
it's not a song about heartbreak it's it's about the loss of friendship she said so I don't need. oh she say so I don't necessarily care who people think it's about I just needed to divert them away from the easiest Target listen to the song It Doesn't point to any one person or any one situation.
This quote conveys Taylor Swift's stance on the song "Bad Blood" and its thematic focus on the pain of losing a friendship, rather than a romantic relationship.
"Katy Perry was actually at a Kanye West concert... and she recorded herself dancing and singing during that line in the song famous."
This quote describes Katy Perry's actions at the concert, which were perceived as provocative given her and Taylor Swift's strained relationship, especially since it related to a dispute between Taylor Swift and Kanye West.
"And also in 2016, Katy Perry had a fragrance called mad love."
The quote mentions the release of Perry's fragrance, which may have been a play on words relating to her and Taylor Swift's tumultuous relationship.
"The record is very empowered but she said there is no one thing that's calling out any one person."
This quote clarifies that Katy Perry's album "Witness" was not targeting anyone specifically, despite public speculation about a response to Taylor Swift's "Bad Blood."
"Honestly, it's really like she started it. It's time for her to finish it."
This quote from Katy Perry during the "Carpool Karaoke" segment indicates her perspective on the origin of the feud with Taylor Swift and her willingness to conclude it.
"Taylor made her entire catalog available on Spotify the same day that Katy Perry's witness album came out."
The quote highlights the strategic timing of Taylor Swift's decision to release her music on Spotify, coinciding with Katy Perry's album launch, which many interpreted as a spiteful action.
"There were references in look what you made me do that fans speculated pointed to Katy Perry."
This quote indicates that fans believed Taylor Swift's song contained hidden messages or references aimed at Katy Perry, contributing to the narrative of their feud.
"Katy Perry sent Taylor an olive branch a literal Olive Branch... This means so much to me."
This quote from Taylor Swift acknowledges the receipt of an olive branch from Katy Perry, which was a public display of their mending relationship.
"Katy Perry talked about their reconciliation on Instagram... Peace at Last written in the frosting and captioned it feels so good."
The quote refers to Katy Perry's Instagram post that celebrated the reconciliation with Taylor Swift, emphasizing the positive outcome of their previously strained relationship.
"Taylor talked about it in Rolling Stone which is very very full circle because this was also her first like Rolling Stone feature."
This quote references Taylor Swift's interview in Rolling Stone, which was significant as it was her first feature in the magazine and it played a role in addressing past conflicts.
"Katy Perry had her daughter with Orlando Bloom and Taylor sent her a gift it was the pastel pink silk blanket um."
The gift from Taylor to Katy symbolizes the mending of their relationship and the personal growth both have experienced.
"Katy Perry went to the AAS tour. yes M. yeah. she was singing Bad Blood."
Katy Perry attending Taylor Swift's tour and engaging with the song "Bad Blood" is a symbolic gesture showing that their past issues have been resolved.
"Both said it was a misunderstanding we both talked it out. everything's good."
This quote emphasizes the power of communication in resolving conflicts and misunderstandings between individuals.
"Bad Blood was nominated for best pop Duo group performance and won best music video at the 58th annual Grammy Awards in 2016."
This quote highlights the critical acclaim and success of "Bad Blood" at the Grammy Awards.
"The music video for Bad Blood received eight nominations and won two video of the Year and best collaboration."
The accolades received by the "Bad Blood" music video at the MTV Music Awards underline its cultural impact and popularity.
"It has 1.6 billion views on YouTube... it broke the record um in its first day 20.1 million views and it unseed Nicki Minaj's Anaconda."
The quote provides statistics that demonstrate the massive viewership and record-breaking success of the "Bad Blood" music video.
"Taylor herself her name is catastrophe which I think is great cuz it's like cat."
This quote explains the pun involved in Taylor Swift's character name in the music video, linking to her known affection for cats.
"Selena's character's name was arson."
The character names were creatively chosen to fit the video's theme of powerful and edgy personas.
"Cara deling mother chucker I wonder if they got to choose their own I think they did."
The speculation about whether celebrities chose their own character names suggests a level of personal involvement in the video's creative process.
"Do you think Taylor ever has moments like that like especially as she's like revisiting her old work as she reclaims it all do you think there's anything that she's like. oh my God why did I do that"
This quote questions whether artists like Taylor Swift experience regret or embarrassment when looking back on their previous work, especially during the process of re-recording older albums.
"A lot of these relationships have fallen out so I think that's probably one thing you're like you know we're not friends. anymore."
The quote reflects on how changes in personal relationships can influence one's perspective on past work and collaborations.
"It's been a while since I've seen her hang out with Haley Steinfeld or you know other people."
This statement acknowledges the dynamic nature of friendships and associations within the entertainment industry, which can shift over time.
"So I remember when that happened people online were like you know talking about being at the show and just not knowing what was happening you know like was something like yes something was wrong because there was a security guard that was kind of pushing too hard on a fan but people were like like not not knowing what's going on and just hearing Taylor be like hey stop like that's got to be scary."
This quote reflects the confusion and concern fans felt when witnessing a security incident during a concert, highlighting the importance of context and clarity in such situations.
"I feel like you know there's some parts in the arist tour where the fans are adding stuff. and I think they're starting to add the security guard getting on to the security guard are they not. oh like as like a chant."
This quote discusses how fans contribute to the concert atmosphere by creating chants, in this case, one related to a security guard incident, demonstrating the dynamic and participatory nature of fan culture.
"My biggest fear is a finish the lyric game because even though I listen to Taylor Swift all day every day if she you know if the song is on like. yeah of course you know the lyrics and like everything but my biggest fear is just being put on the spot in a finish the lyric game and this happened on the radio on the morning show I was put on the spot for finish the lyric and to start playing bad blood."
This quote conveys the speaker's anxiety about being asked to recall lyrics on the spot, a fear that many fans can relate to, emphasizing the pressure of live performance situations.
"He's the one who directed um this mini film of amazing video. yes he's directed a number of tailor um now she kind of directs her own which I love which love great you know she needed him in the beginning. and now she don't."
This quote acknowledges Joseph Kahn's role in directing Taylor Swift's music videos and notes her growth into directing her own work, illustrating her development as a multifaceted artist.
"We are going to celebrate the tortured poets Department we are doing an event that we're very excited about called swifties in the park very exciting and it's going to happen April 27th."
This quote introduces the "Swifties in the Park" event, detailing its purpose and the various activities planned, showcasing the sense of community and celebration within the Taylor Swift fan base.
"Subscribe to the podcast anywhere you usually do that follow us on social media at the 13 podcast um let us know if you have any questions about our swifties in the Park event you can also email us there's like a million ways to contact us."
This quote is a call to action for listeners to engage with the podcast through various platforms, emphasizing the hosts' desire for interaction and community involvement.